AIDS: the Judgment of God


December 25, 2014

Did you know that AIDS was originally known as GRID: Gay-Related Immune Deficiency? The name was quickly changed to the more politically correct term "AIDS" or "Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome." But the fact remains that the AIDS epidemic was originally the result of abominations commited by homosexuals, or what the Bible calls "sodomites". The media has convinced most Americans that homosexuality is a harmless alternative lifestyle, but nothing could be further from the truth, and this film will prove it.

-Scientists at the National Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta today released the results of a study which shows that the lifestyle of some male homosexuals has triggered an epidemic of a rare form of cancer.

Robert Bazell now in Atlanta:

-Bobby Campbell of San Francisco and Billy Walker of New York both suffer from a mysterious newly discovered disease which affects mostly homosexual men. Researchers know of 413 people who have contracted the condition in the past year. One third have died and none have been cured. Investigators have examined the habits of homosexuals for clues.

-San Francisco has more cases of AIDS per capita than any other city. The number of new victims, almost all of them homosexual men...

-Fully half of San Francisco's 80,000 gay men already may carry the AIDS antibody. Since 1981, there have been 1,400 AIDS deaths here.

-Studies show that about half the gay men in San Francisco are infected with the AIDS virus, HIV.

-A totally new disease has appearedin the past couple of years that is spreading rapidly among homosexuals.

-Well, I think it's because it's a gay cancer.

-It appeared a year ago in New York's gay community, then in the gay communities in San Francisco and Los Angeles.

-While gays were gaining in the courts and legislatures, a new disease was diminishing their numbers: AIDS, still incurable, still pervasive among homosexuals. This month the total number of Americans killed by AIDS will top the number of Americans killed in Vietnam.

-We come to thank God for the life of Phil Howard, for all that he meant to all of you.

-San Francisco's gay community, once the capital of gay liberation, has become a community of young men who spend much of their time dealing with death and dying.

-Lord, have mercy.

-Many people compare the experience of living through the AIDS epidemic to war. In this city alone, AIDS already has killed more than 5,000 people. That is three times the number of people from San Francisco, who died fighting in all the wars in this century.

-You feel very helpless. There's absolutely nothing you can do.

-Bob Ross publishes a gay newspaper called the Bay Area Reporter. Every week he prints obituaries of at least a dozen people in the area who died of AIDS.

-AIDS is the judgment of God, and that's the title of the sermon tonight, "AIDS: The Judgment of God".

You say, "Well, I don't think God would send that judgment." Well, go back if you would to Deuteronomy chapter 28. In fact, God already said repeatedly throughout the Bible that disease or pestilence is a judgment that he would send. The Bibles uses the word "pestilence". We would normally use the word "disease". It's the same thing. It's germs; it's disease; it's something that's infected. Look at Deuteronomy chapter 28 verse 15, and let me just explain to you what Deuteronomy 28 is. It's a list of the curses upon those who would disobey the Lord.

"But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:" - Deut 28:15

"The Lord shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee from off the land, whither thou goest to possess it. The Lord shall smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish." - Deut 28:21-22

"The Lord will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed." - Deut 28:27

-AIDS is not God's vengence upon the homosexual community.

-Don't tell me that God won't send disease. Don't tell me that God won't send pestilence as a punishment. Don't tell me that the fact that our country today is filled with STD's isn't the judgment of God today, because it is! And you say, "Well, that has nothing to do with it." That's baloney! You know and I know that married, heterosexual, normal Christian people are not picking up these diseases. They're just not doing it. Unless they get a blood transfusion from one of these freaks, they're not going to get it. You get it from being promiscuous. You get it from living a life of sin, my friend, and anybody who's being honest with you would tell you that. Now go back to Romans chapter one. It's clear.

"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet." - Rom 1:26-27

Now, I have my Bible here. This is a possession that I really prize. This is my grandma's New Testament. In Romans chapter one, my sweet old grandmother, right under the part where it says, "receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet", she wrote the word "AIDS". That's what Grandma said. She said- receiving in themselves that recompence, or what they deserve, or the judgment or punishment that they've earned, receiving in themselves that recompence of the error which was meet - she wrote "AIDS".

This is from the Centers for Disease Control. Here's what they say: that the AIDS rate, the rate of HIV, is fifty times higher for homosexuals. Did you hear that? Fifty times higher. You say, "Well, that's odd. I wonder how in the world this normal, natural, healthy, wonderful lifestyle would lead to fifty times as much of this deadly disease."

Well, let me explain to you how they got fifty times as much AIDS, because it's right here in this article, which is a scientific article put out by two researchers, Bell and Weinberg, and they did a study of thousands and thousands of homos, just doing a study on their lifestyle, doing a survey, and here's what they found: They found that 28% of homos that they checked with - 28% had already had more than one thousand partners. Now, look. It's hard to even wrap your mind around a number like that, isn't it? A thousand? I mean, there's only 365 days in a year. I mean, just stop and think, a thousand different people. 28%. That's almost a third. Let's just round it down. Let's just call it a fourth. That means that if you know four homos, one of them has already surpassed the thousand mark, based on this information.

Now, look. Do you think I made this up? Go research it. It's all fact. And then, there are about three other studies that were done that showed the same thing. So, I mean this was studied in different parts of the country, different time periods, one was done in the 70's, one was done in the 90's, and more than a quarter, more than one out of four had had a thousand - already - a thousand! I mean, that number boggles the mind. 28%. But it goes further than that. 43% - over 500. And that's already just bizarre. I mean, just off the charts. So if you know two of them, one of them has hit the 500 mark already.

"How is that even possible, Pastor Anderson?" Well, that's because 79% of homos said that more than half of their partners are complete strangers. 79% said that more than half of their partners are complete strangers. Now do you understand why they're fifty times more likely to have AIDS? Not only that, but a mere 17% reported having less than fifty already. And I mean, look. They still have their whole life ahead of them. A mere 17% said, "At this point, I've had less than fifty." Only 17%. And this study showed that being monogamous, or being faithful to one partner was non-existant.

-Homosexuality is a sin.

-It was California Republican William Dannemeyer who recently declared on the House floor, "God's plan for man was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve." Dannemeyer leads a group of conservative Republicans who hope to make AIDS a political issue. They meet to plan strategy for bringing controversial AIDS-related legislation to the House floor.

-At some point, the public is going to demand action, frankly, to get on with protecting the public health.

-...bath houses frequented by homosexual men. The House already has voted overwhelmingly to close them if federal authorities believe they help spread AIDS. In New York City, a Republican campaign proposal to close all businesses that cater mainly to homosexual men

-...Gay bath houses, blamed for encouraging high-risk sex, were shut down by the city a year ago, but most had already closed for lack of customers.

-The baths were ordered closed when city inspectors found evidence of sexual practices which they felt lead to the spread of AIDS. Owners of five of the bath houses plan to fight the order in court.

-Congressman Dannemeyer charges that Democrats won't be tough enough on AIDS, because he says the party fears alienating homosexual voters.

-They have opened up their party to the male homosexual community in America, and those members of congress or state legislature or county government who don't take those actions that are needed are going to pay the political price for not having done so.

-I think it is one more instance of fag bashing.

-Last weekend, Darrel Yates Rist predicted that the Mine Shaft would close. He had started going to the gay backroom bar ten years ago. But Saturday night, Rist went as a journalist - the last stop on a tour he had taken of city gay bath houses.

-None of these clubs wants their clientele to die and no gay men in this city wants to die nor does he want his friends and lovers to die. -But the Mine Shaft's neighbors, the meat packers, don't believe Rist; they say they believe what they see.

-They're making love in the street on top of cars and everything. This is men, grown men. I mean, that's not normal.

-We've seen it all since we've been here. They try to pick us up. They come out drunk.

-Sometimes in the morning you see needles on the floor here, and we have to work around it. You see, this is government meat inspected places here.

-The meat handlers say it's gone on too long. Mayor Koch agrees in light of the AIDS crisis.

-This is a matter that involves a lot of money to these people. They are selling death. Places where death can be distributed. We don't want that to go on. But nevertheless, they don't give a damn about it, apparently, because it's going on, and they're making money.

-What they're doing is abnormal in the sense that, most of these people, they're not fit; they're not human beings; they have emotional problems.

-You say, "No, no, Pastor Anderson. You don't understand. I saw on TV that they want to get married. They want to get married and be monogamous." No. Monogamy is non-existant. Here's the science. Here are the numbers: OK, 85% of straight married women in the United States claim to have been faithful to their spouse. Now, it's sad that it's that low, but, you know, that's what it is. Married straight women - 85% will say that they've been faithful. And 75% of straight married men will say that they've been faithful to their spouse, meaning that they have not committed adultery. But amongst homos, you know how many are saying - and this is just who's saying that they've been faithful - 4%. So 96% will just come right out and say, "not faithful, total adultery". So, it's only 4%. Not 40%; four. One, two, three, four per cent that will even claim to have been.

But is that what they show you on TV? "Oh, just let them get married if they love each other. Blah, blah, blah." No. The only reason they want to get married is just to make us think it's normal.

-Through their disgusting lifestyle, the sodomites have spread their disease of AIDS throughout the population. People will often point out that sodomites are not the only ones who get AIDS, and that many straight people get AIDS as well. This is because sodomites who go both ways spread the disease to those who are promiscuous among the straight population. Also, the sodomites have spread their disease to drug users through the sharing of needles. In addition, there have been sodomites who knew they had HIV and yet purposely donated blood to infect the straight population.

-The gay people are giving their blood knowing that it is contaminating people, and to me that is irresponsible and immoral.

-It's a disease first detected in the gay community that has now spread beyond that, a disease experts are now calling a national epidemic.

-We are faced with an epidemic which initially started in the gay community. But now we see it spreading to heterosexual - both men and women.

-Up 'till now, AIDS has affected only homosexual men, intravenous drug abusers, Haitian immigrants, and hemophiliacs, but there is now conflicting scientific evidence that AIDS can be transmitted through blood transfusions, heterosexual relations...

Gay rights groups have attacked federal guidelines that now require Red Cross blood banks to ask homosexual men not to give blood. Gay leaders say such questions particularly in on-the-job blood drives can be a violation of privacy. But federal officials say they'll continue until the epidemic is brought under control.

-Whatever causes AIDS destroys these blood cells, called "lymphocytes", which fight infection. The victims are then suceptible to various diseases. Drug addicts get AIDS from blood-contaminated needles, children from their mothers' blood in the womb. Others have gotten it from blood transfusions and blood products. But more than 70% of the victims are homosexual men who get it from sexual contact.

-I have four friends that have died. I have two friends that are dying. I listen to them. Brilliant people. Brilliant people.

-The Word of God is crystal clear on this subject, I'm going to be crystal clear on this subject, and people are going to be offended because they have been taught by Hollywood and taught by the mainstream media and they've been taught by the music and the TV shows that homosexuality is a normal alternative lifestyle and that they are normal people. That is not what the Bible teaches anywhere. And I'm going to show you a pattern in the Bible here. When the Bible talks about this subject, it's always the same old story playing out. You see, in Genesis 19, you have a city that is filled with these homos, with these sodomites, and these men in the city, instead of contenting themselves to just be a homo or get married to each other or whatever they want to do, what do they want to do? They want to go after the two guys who just got into the town, the two innocent visitors who march into town, and they say, "We want those two guys." The whole town is there. They say, "We want to bring those two guys out and we want to know them."

"But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof. And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door." - Gen 19:4-9

And you say, "Oh, they just want to have a loving relationship." OK. If they want to have a loving relationship, then why is it that when Lot tells them no, they say, "We're going to do worse to you than what we were going to do to them"? Does that sound like they were going to do a good thing to them or a bad thing?

This is actually a very significant event. This is not just an obscure Bible story. This is something that the Bible references over and over and over again. All throughout the Old Testament, all throughout the New Testament, 54 times the term "Sodom" or "sodomite" is mentioned. Look at Judges 19:22. We find a very similar story. Here's a guy who's travelling with his concubine, or his live-in girlfriend, and a servant. And he shows up in a town. It's a similar story except in this story he's trying to find a place to stay. He can't find anywhere to stay. An old man comes in from the field and says, "I will let you stay at my house but you guys should not spend the night in the street." Very similar story. Look at Judges 19:22.

"Now as they were making their hearts merry, behold, the men of the city, certain sons of Belial, beset the house round about, and beat at the door, and spake to the master of the house, the old man, saying, Bring forth the man that came into thine house, that we may know him. And the man, the master of the house, went out unto them, and said unto them, Nay, my brethren, nay, I pray you, do not so wickedly; seeing that this man is come into mine house, do not this folly. Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing. But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go. Then came the woman in the dawning of the day, and fell down at the door of the man's house where her lord was, till it was light. And her lord rose up in the morning, and opened the doors of the house, and went out to go his way: and, behold, the woman his concubine was fallen down at the door of the house, and her hands were upon the threshold. And he said unto her, Up, and let us be going. But none answered. Then the man took her up upon an ass, and the man rose up, and gat him unto his place." - Judges 19:22-28

She's dead. And you say, "Well, this isn't a very pleasant story. This isn't a very pleasant sermon." No. It's not a very pleasant subject! But this, my friend, is reality that you're seeing tonight. You see, what you see on TV is a lie. What you hear in the music is a lie. What you see in the Hollywood movie is a lie. This is the truth. And when you come to church, you should expect to hear the truth about every subject, and tonight you're going to hear the truth about the sodomites.

-The campaign against the ordinance has been vicious. Gays are being called a dangerous and violent group that corrupts children and infects the community with AIDS.

-That looks innocent enough, doesn't it? Lots of young people hitchhike. It seems like a good way to get from one place to another. But sometimes there are dangers involved that never meet the eye. Let's take the case of Jimmy Barnes. Jimmy played baseball all afternoon and he didn't feel like walking home so he decided to thumb a ride. He'd done it a hundred times before and he didn't think anything was unusual when the driver struck up a friendly conversation. In fact, he seemed like a real nice guy. He asked Jimmy if he played baseball in the park often. Jimmy told him they practice three times a week and played a rival group on Friday afternoon. The stranger was a good listener too, and it only seemed minutes before they pulled up in front of Jimmy's house. When Jimmy got out, the stranger gave him a friendly pat. Then he told him he'd see him again because he always drove by the park on his way home. Sure enough, the following day when Jimmy finished playing ball, well, the man was there waiting. They stopped at a drive-in and the stranger treated him to a Coke. During their conversation he told several off-color jokes, but Jimmy had heard others before and, well, it made him feel big to so easily win the confidence of an older person.

The following Saturday they went fishing together. By now they were using first names. Ralph said it was more friendly. Jimmy hadn't enjoyed himself so much in a long time. Then during lunch Ralph showed him some pornographic pictures. Jimmy knew he shouldn't be interested but, well, he was curious. What Jimmy didn't know was that Ralph was sick. A sickness that was not visible like smallpox, but no less dangerous and contagious. A sickness of the mind. You see, Ralph was a homosexual, a person who demands an intimate relationship with members of their own sex. But by now, Jimmy felt a fondness for Ralph and they continued to go places together. Ralph was generous and took Jimmy many interesting places and did many nice things for him. He bought presents and even gave him money. But payments were expected in return. You see, Jimmy hadn't recognized Ralph's approach soon enough. When Ralph first asked Jimmy to go fishing alone, he should have discussed it with his parents or teacher. Finally Jimmy told his parents and they reported it to the juvinile authorities. Ralph was arrested and Jimmy was released on probation in the custody of his parents.

But all homosexuals are not passive. Some resort to violence as in the case of Mike Merrit. In the heat of competition, no one noticed the man who sat and watched. And when the game broke up and the others left, Mike decided to stay and practice a little longer. The stranger joined him. He was friendly and, well, it was better than playing alone. But after a few shots Mike realized he'd already overstayed his time and suggested he'd better leave. The stranger told him if he'd like to stay longer he'd be glad to drive him home when they finished. It sounded great to Mike. A chance to play longer and get a ride home, too. When they finished the stranger told him he'd make a fine player some day if he got lots of practice. The companionship, the praise, the friendly attitude dispelled any misgivings Mike might have had about going with a stranger. He probably never realized until too late that he was riding in the shadow of death, but sometime that evening, Mike Merrit traded his life for a newspaper headline.

Public restrooms can often be a hangout for the homosexual. One never knows when the homosexual is about. He may appear normal, and it may be too late when you discover he is mentally ill. So keep with your group and don't go off alone with strangers.

-"Well, that was the Old Testament." OK, well, let's go to the New Testament then. 2nd Peter chapter two, almost to the very end of the Bible.

It says in verse six, "And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow," because that's how he felt about it back then. That was before he had evolved on that issue. Is that what it says? It says that he turned Sodom and Gomorrha, and condemned them with an overthrow, he turned it into ashes, "making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly". That's why in the New Testament at the end of the Bible, he's saying, "Hey, let me tell you something. That was an example unto those that afterwards should live ungodly." "And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked". It doesn't say, "the alternative lifestyle of the wicked". It says, "vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked". Go to Jude, just a few pages to the right in your Bible. Jude verse seven. Just a couple pages over, second to last book in the Bible. Jude verse seven:

"Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire." - Jude 7

Again, emphasizing the fact that that is supposed to be an example unto us today where we can look at that example and say, "This is what God thinks about that sin." And you say, "Well, what was the sin? What was the big sin?" He tells us right here what the sin was. You say, "Why did he rain fire and brimstone? Was it just because of the violent way that they were trying to carry out their lust? Was it just the violence that they were trying to do?" Well, the Bible says it's because they had given themselves over to fornication, going after strange flesh. And, you know, "strange" has a synonym: "queer". OK? It is not normal for a man to go after another man's flesh. That's strange flesh. And he says that they gave themselves over to fornication and went after strange flesh, and that they are set forth an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Go to Romans one. Romans chapter number one. A lot about this in the New Testament, my friend. We're not even going to look at all the New Testament passages for sake of time. We could look up all 54 times that the word "Sodom" or "sodomite" is mentioned in the Bible, but it would take too long to go to all the scriptures. And people think, "Oh, the Bible barely touches on that." Or, "Oh, the Bible doesn't really talk about that." Look, 54 times the word "Sodom" is used. Now, the passage I'm taking you to in Romans one deals with this subject and doesn't even mention the word "Sodom" or "sodomite". So, I mean there are more than 54 scriptures to deal with here. I mean, there are a lot of scriptures. Genesis nine deals with this subject. Again, no mention of the word "Sodom". And so, this is a subject that the Bible deals with quite a bit, actually. Look at Romans chapter one and let's just let the Bible do the talking tonight, because the Bible says so much. Look at verse number 18. It says:

"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:" - Romans 1:18-26

Now, do you remember how the word "vile" was used back in Judges 19, when the old man said, "Do not so vile a thing"? What does the word "vile" mean? Somebody help me out. What does the word "vile" mean? Disgusting. What's another... Sick. And not in a good way. You know, "vile" means disgusting, gross. Would that be another word that you would probably use for "vile"? That's what the word V-I-L-E means. And the Bible says here that, "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections". For what cause? The fact that when they knew God, they glorified him not as God. The fact that they rejected God, they rejected the evidence that he is the Creator of the world, they rejected all the things that he gave them and the good things that he did for them. And keep reading. It says, "God gave them up unto vile affections".

"And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet." - Romans 1:27

The wording that God uses to describe this activity of men with men - he used the word "vile", he used the word "unseemly", he used the word, it's "not convenient", "convenient" meaning it doesn't come naturally. He used the word "against nature", he used the word "uncleanness", and he said he gave them unto vile affections, and he says here:

"And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;" - Romans 1:28

Now let me ask you something. According to verse 28 here, which came first here, them rejecting God, or God rejecting them? Which came first? It's pretty clear, isn't it? I mean, it says like, "First, here's what they did. They refused to acknowledge God. They refused to worship God. They refused to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. They reduced God to the image of a man. They reduced God to the image of an animal or a beast. They did not like to retain God in their knowledge, meaning they hated God so much they don't even want to think about God. They don't even want to remember tha there is a God." And he says that that is what led to them being given over to a reprobate mind. And three different times it says God gave them up; God gave them up; God gave them over. And then people today still - 99% of evangelical Christianity or Baptists that you talk to will say, "I don't think God gave them up. I don't believe God gave them over. I don't believe God gave them up. I don't think God had anything to do with it." Am I telling the truth? You want to take a poll with me? If we were to go around and ask all the evangelical Christians and Baptists in this area, "Do you think God had anything to do with these people becoming perverted or becoming a reprobate or becoming vile?"..."No!" "No!" But what does the Bible say? It says it.

"Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers," - Romans 1:29

Are we not continuing with the same thought? And isn't "being filled" talking about the people that we were just talking about? They are being filled with these things? So, he just said, "even as they" - Who's the "they"? Well, in verse 27 he said men with men burning in their lust one toward another". "And even as they" - So who's the "they"? The men who burn in their lust one toward another. "Even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness". So what is that saying? It's saying that these men with men who burn in their lust one toward another are filled with all unrighteousness. So is this the only area they're messed up in? I mean, other than that, they're great people if it weren't for this one thing that they lust after other men. Is that what the Bible says? No. It says that they were also filled with all unrighteousness. Now, what does "all" mean? Yeah. Thank you. It says, "Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication" - that goes without saying - "wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy" - what's the next word? - "murder". Now, who believes that? Who believes the Bible tonight? That's what the Bible says: they're filed with murder. He says, "debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters" - what are the next three words? - "haters of God". Now, isn't that what God called them back in Psalm 81? "Haters of God, despiteful, proud" - What's that event that they have again, where they march up and down the street? What's that called again? Oh, Phoenix Pride. Oh, Gay Pride. Yeah. I think the Bible mentions that here. "Proud". He says, "boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful".

Now, is this consistent with Genesis 19 in the story of Sodom? Because what happened in the story of Sodom? Two strangers walk into town, innocent guys, they're having dinner, they sit down to eat a meal with Lot, a knock comes at the door, and they say, "Bring those guys out that we may know them. We want to get to know these guys in a way that's carnal." And they say, "Oh, nope. You can't have these guys." "OK. Well, we'll do worse to you than what we were going to do to them!" No mercy. No listening to reason. No placating them. Judges 19 - similar story. Men of the city come knocking at the door. "Bring those two guys out." You know? And they will not be satisfied. And did they show any mercy on that woman that they abused? They abused that woman all night until she was dead. That's what the Bible said in Judges 19. And you know what people will lie to you and say? They'll say this: "Oh, these homos, they're just not attracted to women." Is that Biblical? Every single homo in the Bible went both ways. Every single one from Genesis to Revelation. Whether it's the story of Ham in Genesis 9, whether it's the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, it talks about how the men of the city had wives and children, the young of the city. When we go to Judges 19, we see that they basically went after this woman, also. See, that's why in Leviticus 20:13 it says, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman...". It doesn't say he's lying exclusively with mankind as opposed to lying with a woman. It says, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." You say, "Well, you have that verse memorized? You don't even have to turn there?" You know, you might want to make that a memory verse too, especially if you don't like this sermon. You may need that to be on a 3x5 card in your pocket this week - OK? - which I've done in the past and you need to do today if you're not clear on this doctrine.

"Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." - Romans 1:32

-Homosexuality is illegal in many countries of the world today. Homosexuality has historically been illegal in the United States, and was still illegal in some places until as late as 2003. But bizarrely, Christians today are being taught in their churches that homosexuality should be legal. Other pastors will admit that it should be illegal, but are vague on what the punishment should be. The Bible only names one punishment for the crime of homosexuality: "They shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

-We know, to a certainy, that AIDS is transmitted in great measure by homosexual conduct. The thought of removing that statute from the books which prohibits homosexual conduct does not seem all that timely to me.

-Many people, even if they may not be the majority, regard it as their right to have free choice in choosing who they love, who they want to have sex with, and don't believe that the state should get involved.

-It's not the state; it is the society.

-But you signed it into law.

-Yes. But I'm acting on behalf of the society. It's not just the state. It is the society, and that's why I would like to advise the Europeans and the western groups that this is one area which should be a no-go area because if they want a real confrontation with us, this is one area where they're not going to make our people budge. -But what about the equality of an individual, as the western countries would argue, to have the right to choose what they want for themselves, that just by virtue of being a human being, they have certain human rights, one of which is to express themselves freely in the way that they choose?

-We cannot accept that behaving unnaturally is a human right.

-Why not?

-I was regarding it as an inborn problem.

-A genetic link to homosexuality?

-Genetic distortion. That was my argument. But now our scientists have knocked this one out, and once you argue that it is a question of choice, then really you have lost the argument as far as the Ugandans are concerned.

-Do you think that by signing the bill, you're taking Uganda backwards?

-Not at all. Not at all. Uganda's the way it has always been.

The Ugandans have never supported - our society system immemorial has never supported homosexuals.

-What is your message to western human rights groups, to President Obama, to lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people?

-Respect African societies and their values. If you don't agree, just keep quiet. Let us manage our society, then we will see. If we are wrong, we shall find out by ourselves. Just the way we don't interfere with yours.

-Do you personally dislike homosexuals?

-Of course. They are disgusting. What sort of people are they? How can you go - I never knew what they were doing. That's how I've been told recently, that what they do is terrible. Disgusting. But I was ready to ignore that if there was proof that that's how he is born, abnormal. But now, the proof is not there.

-Is this about politics more than morality and religion or culture?

-Not at all.

-Because there are many critics that have said this is about 2016; this is about the elections and the majority of people in this country support what you are doing. They support anti-gay legislation.

-But why had I refused to sign it? Why had I refused to sign the bill if that were the case? I had refused to sign it because I wanted - and I was also going to sign it - maybe they would have changed it for me to sign it until I was confronted by the science, which I demanded from them. "You show me whether..."

-It's made you very popular, signing this bill, even more so than you are. There are people in this country that would vote for you because of what you did today. The MP's will win their seats because of what you did today.

-That's not my intention. My intention was the truth, the facts, and what is good for our country, our society.

-Turn to Leviticus 20:13, because I actually discovered the cure for AIDS. OK? Now, this is the cure for AIDS. OK? And, you know, everybody's talking about, "Let's have an AIDS-free world by 2020", or, "Let's have an AIDS- free...". Look. We could have an AIDS-free world by Christmas. You know. OK, it wouldn't be totally AIDS-free, but we'd be like 90-some% AIDS-free by Christmas if we would follow this. OK, here's what the Bible says. Leviticus 20:13. "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman," OK. It says even "both of them have commited an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." And that, my friend, is the cure for AIDS. It was right there in the Bible all along. And they're out spending billions of dollars in research and testing. It's curable. Right there. Because if you executed the homos like God recommends, you wouldn't have all this AIDS running rampant.

-Good evening. Those hateful words are from the mouth of a Tempe pastor preaching that God's Word says that killing gay people is the only way to get rid of AIDS by Christmas. Pastor Steven Anderson has agreed to join us tonight for an exclusive one-on-one interview. Pastor Anderson, thanks for coming in.

-Thanks for having me on.

-I have to be honest. When I heard your sermon, it sounded like the rantings of someone who is either a hatemonger or a religious zealot, and I'm wondering, which are you?

-Well, I'm a religious zealot, and I love the Bible. I love God's Word. I believe that the law of the Lord is perfect, and Leviticus 20:13 clearly says, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." And as a Christian I believe the Bible and that's where I get my belief.

-Doesn't the ten commandments - isn't the first commandment "Thou shalt not kill"?

-No. The first commandment is "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." But of course...

-Is "Thou shalt not kill" one of the commandments?

-Yes it is, but what you have to understand is that the Bible commands that certain people be put to death, not by me, not by Christians. It's obviously not my job or the job of any Christian to go out and kill anybody, and I've never taught anything like that, but rather that the government's job is to punish criminals and to execute those who've committed capital crimes, and according to the Bible, homosexuality's a capital crime, and I didn't write the Bible.

-Some would say that just as the Taliban and the ISIS fighters have perverted Islam and made it violent to fit their vision of the world, that that's what you're doing, is you're perverting Christianity to fit your vision of the world.

-Well, let the viewer read for themself. Let them pull the Bible off their shelf and look up Leviticus 20:13 and then let them be the judge. Intelligent people will listen to the entire sermon "AIDS: The Judgement of God" and will pull their Bible off their shelf and read Leviticus 20:13.

-I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but did you say that if people perceive you as a hatemonger or your church as a hate group, so be it?

-Absolutely. I don't care how people perceive me. They called Jesus Beelzebub. They nailed him to the cross. And Jesus said that they hated him because he testified of their works that their works were evil. That's what I'm doing. That's why they hate me.

-Alright, Pastor Steven Anderson, thanks for coming in.

-Thank you.

-And if you'd like to watch the entire interview with Pastor Anderson you can go to

-We know what they are and we have not been fooled by TV and Hollywood. The Bible says that they're full of all this unrighteousness and uncleanness and filth and iniquity and stone them with stones, etc., etc. And look. I'm not going to stone them with stones. I don't believe in taking the law into my own hands. This is not a violent sermon about harming anyone. Let me tell you something. It was supposed to be the law of the land. Now, when Moses was in charge, it was the law of the land. And when this country was founded, it was the law of the land in America. You know, study your history and in America it was the death penalty on homos even in the Massachusetts Bay Colony, you know, going back to the early 1600's of this country. And in those days it was against the law, and even until 2003 there were some laws on the books against it. It's only since 2003. The Bible says in 1 Kings 14:24,

"And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the Lord cast out before the children of Israel." - 1 Kings 14:24

"And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made." - 1 Kings 15:12

"And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land." - 1 Kings 22:46

"And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the Lord, where the women wove hangings for the grove." - 2 Kings 23:7

So look. We don't see a tolerance here of sodomites.

-There's a new HIV infection every single minute. There's a new AIDS death every half hour. There are 212 deaths - I'm sorry. There are 212 new cases every day of full-blown AIDS.

-Indeed for the forseeable future throughout the world, the number of people dying from AIDS will continue to increase dramatically.

-When you got AIDS, did it make you think again about being gay? Did it make you rethink that lifestyle? Did it make you regret anything you've done?

-No. I have absolutely no regrets. I do not feel guilty about anything that I've done.

-It's morally repulsive. It's just physically repulsive. It's just repulsive across the board. And we need to get a Biblical view tonight of this subject and not be deceived by the world that we live in to tell us, "Oh, we just need to just be more loving and everything's going to be fine." You know what? That's funny, because that's what everybody's doing and it's not working. All the churches who are like, "Oh, let's just open our doors and just love everybody." Look. No queers allowed in this church. And all God's people said:

[Congregation] Amen!

There's no queers allowed. "Is that even legal?"

[Galatians 5:23] Against such there is no law.

No homos will ever be allowed in this church as long as I'm the pastor here. Never!

-The time has come for Christians to stop listening to the media, the politicians, and the watered-down preachers of our day, and to get back to a biblical view of the sodomites. We must protect ourselves and our children from these dangerous disease-filled predators. Our nation has become a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah and it is our job as Christians to hold forth the Word of Life in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation among whom we shine as lights in the world.

-It's filthy! It's vile! They're wicked! And AIDS is the judgment of God tonight!